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penyrhelddu *
Joined: 08 Nov 2007 Posts: 34 Location: AMMANFORD
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Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 17:12 Post subject: 2WD to 4WD whilst moving |
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Just bought 3.1 auto. No owners manual etc....
Fitted General Grabber AT2 265/75/16 tyres today as we got ever so slightly stuck in a ditch with road tyres in 2WD - 4WD got us out without problem .
Might just be new toy effect but I'm sure they ride on the road heaps better than 235/70/16 - back to try that ditch later!
Anyway - is it possible/advisable to change 2H-4H-4L whilst moving forwards to make full use of momentum? I remember doing this with previous Range Rover. |
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markymoan *******
Joined: 25 Jun 2005 Posts: 16267 Location: Naughty Step
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Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 17:18 Post subject: |
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Hi and welcome
Has it got Auto locking hubs on the front or just blank plates ?
Also what year is it ? _________________ |
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penyrhelddu *
Joined: 08 Nov 2007 Posts: 34 Location: AMMANFORD
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Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 17:48 Post subject: |
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its a 1992 mk2 with Auto hubs... |
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markymoan *******
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Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 17:55 Post subject: |
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penyrhelddu wrote: |
its a 1992 mk2 with Auto hubs... |
In that case no you should not shift on the fly, Sorry _________________ |
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penyrhelddu *
Joined: 08 Nov 2007 Posts: 34 Location: AMMANFORD
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Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 17:58 Post subject: |
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ok - thanks for your help.. |
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rangielover ****
Joined: 17 Jul 2006 Posts: 276 Location: West wales
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Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2007 0:16 Post subject: |
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no dont do that mate, you need to stop between shifting between low hi and 2wd.
im in ammanford too and have a hub here damaged from doing as you suggested, would happily show you the damage!
Jon |
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penyrhelddu *
Joined: 08 Nov 2007 Posts: 34 Location: AMMANFORD
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Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2007 9:26 Post subject: |
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Hi Jon
The kids are dying to go off road - maybe you know of some good spots?
Mark |
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dxmedia *******
Joined: 04 Mar 2007 Posts: 4677 Location: Hope Valley
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Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2007 9:32 Post subject: |
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now.... I was under the impression that if you went into 4wd, locked the hubs off (auto), went back into 2wd, and as long as there was no reversing (such as going out laning over different surfaces) then there was no problems from going 2 - 4 - 2 - 4.
Not recommended since you have to keep an eye on popping into reverse and unlocking the hubs, but since the hubs are already locked there's no problems doing it.
huhuhu cus I've been doing it for years _________________ For great insurance deals on 4x4s, imports and more, contact Adrian Flux :
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Chris B Lifetime member
Joined: 17 Oct 2005 Posts: 3537 Location: Chorley, Lancashire
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Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2007 13:00 Post subject: |
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dxmedia wrote: |
now.... I was under the impression that if you went into 4wd, locked the hubs off (auto), went back into 2wd, and as long as there was no reversing (such as going out laning over different surfaces) then there was no problems from going 2 - 4 - 2 - 4. |
DONT try this on amy Shift On the Fly models... it confuses the system! _________________ Isuzu Rodeo Denver Max LE | 265/65R18 BF Goodrich AT LTM No.60
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Hard1 Lifetime member
Joined: 08 Dec 2004 Posts: 3544 Location: New Forest Old Git
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Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2007 14:33 Post subject: |
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But if you had MANUAL hubs previously locked into lock position you could "shift-on-the-fly" into 4WD high (at a sensible i.e. 30 mph speed) yes or no?
Can't remember.... _________________ 1999 Cougar with a NICE motor..
Click HERE to see under my bonnet! |
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rangielover ****
Joined: 17 Jul 2006 Posts: 276 Location: West wales
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Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2007 15:51 Post subject: |
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no you cant shift at all on the move. Having locking hubs allows you to run 2wd low thats the only benefit |
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Hard1 Lifetime member
Joined: 08 Dec 2004 Posts: 3544 Location: New Forest Old Git
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Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2007 17:23 Post subject: |
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It's not the only benefit, but an important one on (dry) rocks without destroying your (auto) hubs. Also in deep snow (please please) having to reverse continuously tends to knacker auto-hubs in short order so that's another. Thanks for the info on shifting on the move - probably saved me finding out the hard way.... _________________ 1999 Cougar with a NICE motor..
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penyrhelddu *
Joined: 08 Nov 2007 Posts: 34 Location: AMMANFORD
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Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2007 17:51 Post subject: |
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Im getting confused now..
Rocks, snow, reversing?
When is it OK to switch to 4WD?
I know you should only do it off road... Should I only use 4H once traction is lost in 2WD - then 4H/4L if that doesnt work?
My thought when you see a possible *obstacle* ie snow/mud/incline stop and select 4H/4L but what if 2WD would have done or the traction is too much for 4WD.....???
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Newtroopy **
Joined: 16 Apr 2007 Posts: 92 Location: Wiltshire
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Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2007 20:17 Post subject: shift on the fly |
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Hi there,
Now I am under the impression that you can engage the 4WD on the move, drive on a suitable surface, then dis engage 4WD after you have crossed the slippery surface.
Then to un lock those auto hubs, while in 2WD reverse the vehicle for a while.
You should NEVER chainge the HIGH 2 LOW while moving.
If I am incorrect in any way please let me know.
Nice manual hubs allow you to trick the "system" and run in 2WD low, if in the un locked position. _________________ Isuzu Trooper 3.0D SWB Citation 2000 (W)
all recall work done |
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Peej Lifetime member
Joined: 23 Jul 2006 Posts: 1562 Location: Southampton
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Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2007 2:02 Post subject: |
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The earlier models I believe, the vehicle had to be stopped to shift to 4x4 whether in high or low range. The later models had a system called shift on the fly, which allowed shifting to 4x4 high only, on the move up to 60 mph, these models had fixed hubs. The same rules apply to whatever system, as in only to engage 4x4 on loose or muddy surfaces,engaging on hard grippy surfaces could result in damage. The point that was made about those with manual hubs is that you could be in 4x4 low, but by not engaging the hubs, you would not actually be in 4x4, useful when reversing or needing the slower speeds on a hard surface. _________________ Every time I learn something new, it pushes some old stuff from out of my brain.
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